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A Holocaust survivor and WWII vet meet 80 years later : NPR

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A Holocaust survivor and WWII vet meet 80 years later : NPR


Andrew Roth stands up from his wheelchair to give Jack Moran a hug at the Shoah Foundation USC offices on June 5, 2025. Grace Widyatmadja for NPR

Andrew Roth (left) stands up from his wheelchair to offer Jack Moran a hug on the Shoah Basis on the College of Southern California in Los Angeles. Roth was imprisoned within the Buchenwald focus camp, which Moran helped liberate whereas serving within the U.S. Military.

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Jack Moran was born in Superior, Wisconsin, in 1925.

Andrew Roth was born on the opposite aspect of the world, in Penészlek, Hungary, in 1927. Earlier this month, the 2 males met in Los Angeles. It was not the primary time that occasions had introduced them to the identical place.

“Are you the soldier who…” Roth requested from his wheelchair, reaching his hand out.

Survivors and relatives attend a ceremony at the Auschwitz-Birkenau former Nazi German concentration and extermination camp, in Oswiecim, Poland, Monday, Jan. 27. 2025

“You do not have to stand up,” mentioned Moran.

Roth leaned on his cane, and stood. The 2 males embraced.

“I used to be a lot youthful,” mentioned Roth. “So had been you.”

“How great that you just survived,” mentioned Moran.

Eight many years earlier, Roth was a prisoner within the Buchenwald focus camp in Germany, having already survived the Auschwitz demise camp and, earlier than that, a ghetto for Jap European Jews.

Moran was serving within the U.S. Military, when he arrived with the American army and helped liberate Buchenwald, after going through the brutal fight of the Battle of the Bulge, the place he watched his finest associates die.

Each males had been nonetheless youngsters once they endured devastating Nazi atrocities and the horrors of battle.

Andrew Roth after the podcast interview on June 5, 2025. Grace Widyatmadja for NPR

Andrew Roth and his household had been deported from Hungary and brought to Auschwitz-Birkenau, the place most of his household had been murdered within the fuel chambers.

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Now, each approaching 100 years outdated, Roth and Moran met to share their tales with the USC Shoah Basis, which maintains the most important audiovisual archive of Holocaust survivor and witness testimonies.

The Nazis systematically killed an estimated six million Jews within the Holocaust. Immediately, simply over 220,000 Holocaust survivors stay worldwide, in keeping with the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, a company that helps survivors obtain compensation for Nazi atrocities.

Fewer and fewer first-hand witnesses stay alive to inform their tales, and the remaining survivors’ recollections are fading. The USC Shoah Basis is racing in opposition to time to collect these testimonies, uncover extra Holocaust historical past, and enhance international understanding of the genocide.

“There are so few of the best era or the survivor era who’re nonetheless with us,” mentioned Rob Williams, a Holocaust historian and CEO of the USC Shoah Basis.

Williams mentioned that though the Holocaust has been the topic of intense historic curiosity through the years, many elements of that historical past, significantly in Jap Europe, stay unexplored or unknown.

The testimonies of remaining survivors may help fill within the gaps.

“And if we’re unable to not solely document their tales, however share them with the world,” Williams mentioned, “there are facets of this historical past or alternatives to construct connections which will endlessly be misplaced.”

‘Life was so low cost and demise got here really easy’

Moran enlisted within the Military at 17 years outdated, and deployed to the battlefields of western Europe in 1944. A long time later, what’s most vivid in his reminiscence is the overwhelming loss he and his fellow troopers endured.

“I noticed so many good younger fellows laying within the ditches of France, and within the snow of Belgium, and within the woods of Germany,” Moran mentioned. “19 years outdated, 20 years outdated, their lives lower quick.”

Jack Moran after the podcast interview on June 5, 2025. Grace Widyatmadja for NPR

Jack Moran was caught in a foxhole for days with out meals in the course of the Battle of the Bulge.

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In a single battle, he misplaced 4 of his finest associates.

“God spared me for some cause,” he mentioned. “Life was so low cost, and demise got here really easy. It was so, so unhappy.”

Throughout the brutal winter of 1944-1945, in the course of the Nazi offensive often known as the Battle of the Bulge, Moran mentioned he was caught for days in a frozen foxhole, surrounded by the German army, with no meals.

“Thank God the snow was there to offer us water,” Moran mentioned.

Every survival was adopted by one other battle, and increasingly more preventing.

“I noticed grown males — 25 years outdated was a grown man to me at the moment — after a battle, sitting within the nook of a barn, crying like a child, saying ‘I am unable to take this anymore. I am unable to stand this anymore,'” Moran mentioned. “And I felt the identical method. All of us did. However we needed to proceed. We had no selection however to maintain going ahead, watching our associates die.”

U.S. Army troops march through the snow in Belgium on January 25, 1945, during the Battle of the Bulge.

U.S. Military troops march by way of Belgium on Jan. 25, 1945, in the course of the Battle of the Bulge.

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Because the Military superior into Germany, Moran started seeing indicators of one other form of horror.

“In railroad yards, we discovered boxcars,” Moran mentioned. “We might open up the door and inside could be six or seven-hundred suitcases that the homeowners by no means bought again.”

All through the Holocaust, the Nazis confiscated the belongings of Jewish folks — who, in the event that they weren’t instantly killed, had been deported to ghettos and focus camps — and used them for the German battle effort. Focus camp guards even shaved inmates’ hair, which was then repurposed as insulation or uncooked materials for German army provides.

‘I used to be simply very resourceful, and really fortunate’

In 1944, the Nazis forcibly took Andrew Roth and his Orthodox Jewish household from their small Hungarian city to a ghetto in Satu-Mare, now a part of Romania.

All through the Holocaust, the Nazis concentrated European Jews in city ghettos, which had been marked by horrific residing situations, compelled labor and the specter of execution.

Life within the ghetto didn’t final lengthy.

Later that 12 months, Roth and his household had been deported to Auschwitz, the Nazi focus camp in Poland, which was outfitted with fuel chambers to commit homicide on an industrial scale. Round a million Jews had been killed at Auschwitz over the course of the Holocaust.

When Roth and his household bought to Auschwitz, he remembers, the focus camp guard was separating new arrivals into two traces.

“Rechts” and “hyperlinks,” Roth remembers the guard telling them — sending folks both “proper” or “left.”

“He informed me to go rechts,” Roth mentioned, to comply with his mom and siblings. However he noticed his uncle and a cousin going to the left.

“With out pondering,” he mentioned, he determined to comply with his uncle, “not realizing that I made a life and demise selection. All those that went to the fitting had been gassed the identical evening. And I went with my uncle the opposite method. And right here I’m.”

With most of his household murdered, Roth survived on minimal rations within the chilly, whereas performing arduous labor. Dying was a continuing presence.

“It was so routine, you simply get resistant to that stuff,” Roth mentioned.

Because the Soviet military approached Auschwitz, the Nazis despatched Roth and different inmates to Buchenwald, a focus camp in Germany.

Young, emaciated prisoners stand inside the barbed wire of the Buchenwald concentration camp on April 19, 1945, shortly after the U.S. army liberated the camp from the Nazis.

Younger, emaciated prisoners stand contained in the barbed wire of the Buchenwald focus camp on April 19, 1945, shortly after the U.S. military liberated the camp from the Nazis.

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In his block was one other teenager — Elie Wiesel — who would go on to write down about his expertise within the Holocaust within the memoir Evening and later acquired the Nobel Peace Prize. Wiesel died in 2016.

Roth mentioned survival typically boiled right down to a combat in opposition to freezing chilly and hunger. At one level, he remembers discovering the place the Nazis fed the German Shepherds used to protect the camp. He risked his life to take simply sufficient pet food to stay alive.

“I used to be simply very resourceful,” Roth mentioned, “and really fortunate more often than not.”

‘I could not imagine what I used to be seeing’

By April 1945, because the Nazi regime was collapsing, destiny introduced Roth and Moran collectively.

On April 11, inmates started to overhaul the camp because the guards fled. U.S. forces arrived quickly after and liberated the world. 21,000 inmates remained. 900 of them had been kids.

Roth mentioned the expertise of liberation was “unreal, unbelievable.”

Although he was born in September, he now celebrates April 11 as his birthday.

“I could not imagine what I used to be seeing — how man can appear so imply to his fellow human being,” mentioned Moran.

A scan of a yellow document that is written in German and English. It is titled "Military Government of Germany: Concentration Camp Inmates Questionnaire." Andor Roth is hand written. The date of arrest is May 4, 1944. The form says reason for arrest is "being a Jew." The fields "Charges made" and "Names of judges" are left blank.

Andrew Roth’s official questionnaire, accomplished after the U.S. Military liberated Buchenwald, a Nazi focus camp in Germany. Roth was given the identify “Andor” at delivery, and later adopted the identify Andrew.

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Normal Dwight D. Eisenhower, the Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces in Europe, invited members of Congress and journalists to go to the liberated camps, together with Buchenwald, to witness firsthand the proof of Nazi atrocities.

Roth mentioned he remembers talking to Germans shortly after liberation who claimed ignorance.

“They stored saying, ‘wir haben das nicht gewusst,'” Roth mentioned, which means, “we didn’t know.”

“It was a blatant lie,” Roth mentioned. “There was no method of ignoring it.” He mentioned that when the Nazis burned the our bodies of their victims, the smoke and the scent traveled for miles.

The combat to protect historical past

“By and enormous, data of the Holocaust is reducing,” mentioned Williams, who beforehand labored for the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, “even in a number of the international locations chargeable for the crimes of the Holocaust.”

Understanding the Holocaust, he argues, is essential to understanding the trendy world, together with the postwar establishments designed to make sure that “by no means once more” wouldn’t be an empty promise.

Worldwide organizations just like the United Nations and NATO had been created within the aftermath of World Conflict II, and worldwide treaties on the therapy of refugees and in opposition to genocide had been ratified. The phrase “genocide” didn’t exist earlier than World Conflict II.

This 2020 photo shows Nick Fuentes photographed from about the shoulders up. He has brown hair and is wearing sunglasses.

Skepticism of such establishments of worldwide cooperation have gained political traction. Authoritarian governments, comparable to Viktor Orban’s in Hungary, have received energy and undermined civil liberties. In Germany, leaders of the far-right political get together Alternativ für Deutschland (Various for Germany), or AfD, have decried what they name a “cult of guilt” across the Holocaust, and questioned the nation’s continued reckoning with Nazi-era crimes. Within the U.S., members of the Trump administration, together with Vice President JD Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, have expressed assist for the AfD.

“I hate to be pessimistic, however I do not suppose it is any coincidence that simply as we’re casting doubt on the worth of democracy or on the worth of human rights,” Williams mentioned, “that we’re additionally starting to witness a decline in understanding and reminiscence of the Holocaust.”

Flowers and stones are left outside the Lillian and Albert Small Capital Jewish Museum on May 23 in Washington, D.C.

Within the U.S., violent antisemitic assaults have occurred in Boulder, Colo., and Washington, D.C. Widespread on-line influencers with hundreds of thousands of followers have inspired Holocaust denial. And a number of members of the Trump Administration have promoted antisemitic conspiracies and related to antisemitic extremists.

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